Best Linux hard disk? [quot] [partition]
Q: Suggestions are welcome.
I know Red Hat, the traditional de facto Linux build.
What do for you was in a “Windows XP replacement”?
Further that, should I partition and format my hard drive before you do that? I have an old 40GB IDE drive that I use to it.
Thanks try!
-SB.
Best Answer: The best fully loaded distro with most of the software preinstalled is Linux Mint 4.0 Daryna (Main Edition). Its directly based on the immensely successful kernel of Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy Gibbon.
Information link : http://linuxmint.com/
Download link : http://linuxmint.com/download.php
It also includes the awesome 3D effects of Compiz Fusion : http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/
Enjoy what is possibly the highest point of Home computing.
LUg.
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Re:And this is version 6! I mean, come on, your everage "human" wants to hear music when he or she double clicks on an .mp3.
Your average human also needs to pay for a MP3 decoder even though they don't realize it, so there's no way Ubuntu can legally distribute one without footing the bill themselves or making you pay for it.
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Re:guy, just install the needed codecs. there are tons of ubuntu guides that can help ya do it. your gonna have to learn somehow, no matter what distro you use. you should learn how to do things manually, its fun.
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
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Re:ubuntu or suse 10.1, or even mandrake 2006.
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Re:I am dissapointed with Ubuntu. I got the 6.06 final release candidate, did the normal default install, updated everything, and decided to play an mp3 file. Double click on the file, Totem movie player comes up, and shows an ugly big error window: Totem coul not play 'file:///media/dvdrecorder/Sounds/… You do not have a decoder installed to handle this file. You might need to install the necessary plugins… So, I go to the help, and click online support, and can't really find anything there about any decoder plugins. So I google for Totem and mp3, and get a long line of code to type into the command line, that should fix things. I don't know, but for Ubuntu with their whole "human" thing, I expected better.
Trying to play mpo3 through the Music Player (also came with ubuntu) didn't accomplish anything either.
And this is version 6! I mean, come on, your everage "human" wants to hear music when he or she double clicks on an .mp3.
I am going to check SUSE next, lets see if they are more "human"
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Re:To be honest, I wouldn't know as I've only been using Linux for 6 months and my experience is limited to Fedora Core and Ubuntu. I've never tried SuSE or Slackware – or if I did it was a long time ago. I've tried distros in the past but I don't remember which ones and I never stuck with them. I was just going by the 'Timeline' posted in that other thread.
Understandable, I was really surprised to see that SuSe was supposedly a fork of Slackware. I figured it was a RH fork since it used RPMs, but I've only installed it like once and that was probably 3+ years ago.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
I think SuSe is pretty much just SuSe now, it may have started from Slackware way back when but it's so far from there that I don't think it's worth mentioning now.
To be honest, I wouldn't know as I've only been using Linux for 6 months and my experience is limited to Fedora Core and Ubuntu. I've never tried SuSE or Slackware – or if I did it was a long time ago. I've tried distros in the past but I don't remember which ones and I never stuck with them. I was just going by the 'Timeline' posted in that other thread.
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Re:I think SuSe is pretty much just SuSe now, it may have started from Slackware way back when but it's so far from there that I don't think it's worth mentioning now.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Both Ubuntu and SuSE are based on Debian.
SuSe is most definitely not based on Debian.
Corrected and corrected. 
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Re:Both Ubuntu and SuSE are based on Debian.
SuSe is most definitely not based on Debian.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
If you can't fix this problem in Ubuntu, you're in for a world of hurt with Gentoo..
Did you try booting Ubuntu in safe graphics mode? (The second option) This basically uses the vesa driver instead of automatically detecting a driver for your card. Normally the default nv and ati modules give me problems, but vesa works well. Just boot up the Ubuntu livecd and select that option to see if using vesa will work better. If it does I can explain how to correct the issue in your current install.
Awesome, thanks very much. :thumbsup:
I think I'm at 1920×1200 here and would like to switch to VESA mode for the hard drive install. What do I need to do?
Ok open up the terminal and type "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf". Scroll down near the bottom and look for Device. It should list your graphics card along with other information. Then look for the Driver entry. In the quotation marks it might list ati or nv or something of that nature. Replace that with vesa (make sure its in the quotation marks still). Then save and the next time the x server starts (like logging out and back in or restarting your computer) it'll run with the vesa driver.
Now this may be a solution, but there are other approaches. Like instead of the vesa driver you can install ati's or nvidia's proprietary driver. They may give more features than the generic vesa driver and might even support higher resolutions.
To install them make sure the universe repository is accessible through apt-get. This can be done by typing "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list", looking down for the line that mentions the universe repository (it'll have universe all the way at the end of the repository) and uncommenting the line (remove the # sign in front of it) then save it. Then update your sources by typing "sudo apt-get update"
Now type "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" if you have an ati card or "sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx" if you have an nvidia one. Then check the xorg.conf file again and look down where the Driver entry was listed. Instead of vesa or what it was before, it needs to be "fglrx" if you installed the proprietary ati drivers or "nvidia" if you installed the proprietary nvidia drivers. Then save and you're done.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
suse/ubuntu it seems
Should I be running Debian then?
Ubuntu is based on Debian.
Edit: Corrected by guy (SuSE is based on Slackware)
Re:Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
suse/ubuntu it seems
Should I be running Debian then?
Re:Why not try the ATI binary drivers?
Re:Originally posted by: guy
If you can't fix this problem in Ubuntu, you're in for a world of hurt with Gentoo..
Did you try booting Ubuntu in safe graphics mode? (The second option) This basically uses the vesa driver instead of automatically detecting a driver for your card. Normally the default nv and ati modules give me problems, but vesa works well. Just boot up the Ubuntu livecd and select that option to see if using vesa will work better. If it does I can explain how to correct the issue in your current install.
Awesome, thanks very much. :thumbsup:
I think I'm at 1920×1200 here and would like to switch to VESA mode for the hard drive install. What do I need to do?
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
There is a glitch w/ the graphics subsystem…it will only allow me to use 640×480, which prevents me from getting past the first screen during installation.
How does it prevent you from doing the installation? If you can't see the buttons just hold alt and click anywhere in the window and you can drag it around.
Thank-you very much.
It's on my hard drive. Now how do I get it to 1920×1200? 
It's pretty slick, by the way. Knoppix is nice too.
System -> Preferences -> Resolution
It's locked at 640×480, dispite everything looking ok in the strange string of settings that exist within Linux (both the graphics card and the "screen" are listing higher resolutions than 640×480).
Perhaps I should just try gentoo.
If you can't fix this problem in Ubuntu, you're in for a world of hurt with Gentoo..
Did you try booting Ubuntu in safe graphics mode? (The second option) This basically uses the vesa driver instead of automatically detecting a driver for your card. Normally the default nv and ati modules give me problems, but vesa works well. Just boot up the Ubuntu livecd and select that option to see if using vesa will work better. If it does I can explain how to correct the issue in your current install.
Re:It's locked at 640×480, dispite everything looking ok in the strange string of settings that exist within Linux (both the graphics card and the "screen" are listing higher resolutions than 640×480).
Check out /etc/X11/xorg.conf, in there should be a bunch of lines starting with Modes and listing resolutions like "800×600", see if the ones you want are in there.
Perhaps I should just try gentoo.
Sure, if you have a lot of time to waste…
Re:Originally posted by: LoKe
Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
There is a glitch w/ the graphics subsystem…it will only allow me to use 640×480, which prevents me from getting past the first screen during installation.
How does it prevent you from doing the installation? If you can't see the buttons just hold alt and click anywhere in the window and you can drag it around.
Thank-you very much.
It's on my hard drive. Now how do I get it to 1920×1200?
It's pretty slick, by the way. Knoppix is nice too.
System -> Preferences -> Resolution
It's locked at 640×480, dispite everything looking ok in the strange string of settings that exist within Linux (both the graphics card and the "screen" are listing higher resolutions than 640×480).
Perhaps I should just try gentoo.
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Originally posted by: guy
There is a glitch w/ the graphics subsystem…it will only allow me to use 640×480, which prevents me from getting past the first screen during installation.
How does it prevent you from doing the installation? If you can't see the buttons just hold alt and click anywhere in the window and you can drag it around.
Thank-you very much.
It's on my hard drive. Now how do I get it to 1920×1200?
It's pretty slick, by the way. Knoppix is nice too.
System -> Preferences -> Resolution
Re:Originally posted by: guy
There is a glitch w/ the graphics subsystem…it will only allow me to use 640×480, which prevents me from getting past the first screen during installation.
How does it prevent you from doing the installation? If you can't see the buttons just hold alt and click anywhere in the window and you can drag it around.
Thank-you very much.
It's on my hard drive. Now how do I get it to 1920×1200?
It's pretty slick, by the way. Knoppix is nice too.
Re:There is a glitch w/ the graphics subsystem…it will only allow me to use 640×480, which prevents me from getting past the first screen during installation.
How does it prevent you from doing the installation? If you can't see the buttons just hold alt and click anywhere in the window and you can drag it around.
Re:You can use the debain like installer too with ubuntu, you dont have to do the liveCD install. THen you can configure xorg for your video card and start X.
Re:There have always been a few problems with ATI and Linux, however, I am sure you will be able to get Ubuntu working without much effort – that's quite a common card… And what's wrong with 640*480 anyway, just until you get it installed? Then you can get new drivers…
A quick google for 'ubuntu x800' brings up threads where people have similar problems and are pointed to the install instructions here:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
and here:
http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Breezy_Installation_Guide
Re:Originally posted by: guy
Ubuntu was REALLY easy to install.
Its been a few years since I've done a Red Hat install though, and they may have improved since then.
I just tried and failed with Ubuntu! 
There is a glitch w/ the graphics subsystem…it will only allow me to use 640×480, which prevents me from getting past the first screen during installation.
Any other suggestions? I suppose I would prefer drivers and stability over fluff. Something that works with an X800Pro and a 2405FPW. Anyone out there with experience with said hardware?
Thanks Again,
-SB.
Re:Ubuntu was REALLY easy to install.
Its been a few years since I've done a Red Hat install though, and they may have improved since then.
Re:Ubuntu is great for a beginner and poweruser alike. You can either download the ISO, or order some CD's (free). But if you do order the CD's, you're required to get like, 10 or more, so give some out.
Re:Originally posted by: wizboy11
Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I think Ubuntu…….
Easiest distro ever. (to use and install)
:thumbsup:
Imma give it a whirl.
Thank-you.
Re:Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I think Ubuntu…….
Easiest distro ever. (to use and install)
Re:I haven't used Red Hat for a while (used Fedora Core 1, IIRC). Currently running SUSE 10.1, no complaints. I think Ubuntu and Debian are also fairly popular distros.
I think nearly every linux installer comes with partitioning software, so you can take care of the drive allocation during your installation.
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