buying new motherboard cpu and memory [cpu motherboard] [asp catalog]
Q: Im going DFI NF2 Ultra 400 LAN parties get on board (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?submit=manufactoryu0026catalog=22u0026manufactory=1307u0026DEPA=1u0026sortby=14 u0026; om = 1) for $ 160 off retail newegg
the Barton 2500 + (http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduct.asp?catalog=343u0026DEPA=1u0026submit=propertyu0026mfrcode=0u0026propertycode u0026 = property value = code 4159.4575) from newegg for $ 512 96
and two poles of TwinMOS pc3700 (http://store.yahoo.com/memx/twinmos.html) from memoryx.com
this will take me to around $ 500 excluding tax
what do you think?
overclocking is one of the most important things for me here
my main concern is the memory, this is the best memory (highest frequency) at 2-2-2 timings t1?
Best Answer: Since I build high-end gamer systems, systems that fit the needs you described, and repair computers, how about I suggest some hardware components? I base my decisions on deductive reasoning, and the 'Best Bang for the Buck', theory.
This is from one of the business multi-application systems, that I have recently built.
1.Motherboard. The Mobo,(Motherboard), is the 'Building Block' of a computer. Without starting with a good base, you'll wind up with an in-adequate system down the road. You won't be able to upgrade it should you need to. I tend to favor Intel processors, Nvidia Northbridge/Southbridge chipsets, and XFX for mobo's and graphics cards. Intel cpu's,(Processors), tend to be more expensive than their AMD counterpart, but I like the way they perform, and their ease of use. (AMD's are excellent unit's. They're cheaper right now, because AMD is trying to come back from an economic slump)
Nvidia's chipsets are compatible with either Intel or AMD products, and I find they have more features, than compared to an Intel chipset, or AMD chipset. XFX has been around for a LONG time in the making of graphics cards, and I have found no bad reviews, nor my own personal experience, with their mobo's.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/…
The XFX nForce 680i LT SLI mobo, with the Intel Core2 Quad Q6600.
This mobo has support for processors with up to a 1333MHz FSB.
Uses DDR2 Sdram at 800MHz. (PC6400) Will support up to 4GB's with a 32bit O/S, and 8GB's with a 64bit O/S.
Has two PCI-Express x16 slots, that when two graphics cards are used it will 'run' them at 16x each. Not 16x for one, and 8x for the other as some mobo's do.
The PCI-Express x16 slots are the 1.1 version. You can use a PCI-Express 2.0 version graphics card in them. PCI-Express 2.0 is backward compatible with PCI-E 1.1 version. Will you notice this with the applications/programs that you indicate? Nope! Only if you're gaming with a high-intensive game, you may notice a few frame rate drops. DOUBT it then!
Has six Sata headers. (Connectors) You can install six harddrives, and put them into a RAID configuration, if you wish.
The rest of the features are listed on the link.
The cpu has FOUR cores operating at 2.40GHz EACH! 8MB's of cache, and a 1066MHz FSB. If you find that you have opened FOUR programs at once, are checking your email, while you're online here, while watching a video, and you have problems, email me! I want to be the first to document this case!
2.Ram.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/… Two -1GB sticks of high-performance Corsair gamer ram, that is Dual Channel configurable. (2GB's total) DDR2 Sdram at 800MHz (PC6400) $32 bucks after rebate.
3.Harddrive.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/… (Western Digital with 500GB's of room, and a 16MB buffer. 7200 rpm spindle speed.
4.Power supply
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/… 600 watts of power. 120mm fan. $70 bucks
5.Graphics card.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/…
XFX GeForce 8800GT Alpha Dog Edition $109 bucks. I can't recommend anything lower than a 8600GT. I believe the 8800GT Alpha Dog Edition would make you happy for years! This Nvidia based card, is more compatible with the Nvidia based chipset on the mobo, than perse an AMD ATI Radeon unit. (They 'play' together nicely!)
6.Case.
The world is your oyster here. It should be based on personal preference of style, ease of using the optical drives, cooling resources, and price. (If you choose a case that comes with a power supply, that's cool! The cost of buying a combo negates this a good choice. However DON'T trust the power supply that comes with it! Use a better one.
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/…
This page is just the 'Tip of the iceberg'. The links on the left, take you to clear sided cases, Full tower, Mid-tower, etc.
I use a cheap, Lite-On Dual Layer DVD combo drive, with LightScribe technology from Walmart. It's reviewed as being comparable to units that cost three to five times as much. Haven't had a moments notice of problems with any of the unit's I've installed, or used in the past two years.
As you can see, I favor TigerDirect. I also peruse Newegg, but I've had excellent luck with TigerDirect for years.
Edit: I didn't include the heatsink/fan combo, thermal paste, or any additional case fans. (Should you find a case that uses additional fans, and should you desire more fans.) I'm sure I probably left something else off of this list, but here are the main components.
1.Be sure to follow the DE-static rules! Use a ESD wriststrap, or touch the metal frame of the computer case repeatedly. Before you take those delicate computer components out of their anti-static bags. Before you take that cpu out of it's plastic case. After you have got up, walked away, and returned to your build. Work on a table. A bed, the couch, or directly on a carpet floor has Static galore! When in doubt, touch the case. Static will silently fry a computer component, and you'll never see it, or know it!
2.Make sure you line up the spacers on the support plate, with the holes in the mobo. If there are any that touch the mobo, it could,(And probably will!), short the mobo out.
Read the Motherboard Manual thoroughly before beginning.
The mobo may require fiber washers on the spacers, or it may not.
3.Be sure to install the CD disk that comes with the mobo->FIRST. Then the O/S. Then the drivers on the CD for the graphics card, then power down, un-plug, and install the graphics card. Windows will try to install generic drivers for the graphics card, if it is installed before the drivers for it are installed. You'll have a conflict issue then, and the cure is no fun!
4.The Sata harddrive can be installed in any of the Sata headers. (Connectors) It's best to install it in Sata 1 header.
5.Your optical drive/s are attached to the IDE header. This is of course if you buy an IDE,(Also called ATA or PATA), optical drive. The IDE optical drive is the most common.
Questions? Click on my avatar, email me.
Re:if you own any of those above memories can you post what you have it clocked at, the latencies, and vdimm ??
I am leaning toward the geil stuff
they just look cool and that red light rocks
thanks everyone
Re:Originally posted by: guy
I just bought the dfi board a few hours ago
I think it's a good enough board tho
now I just need memory and the cpu
which memory would you guys get from below for an nforce2 board:
geil golden dragon pc3700 (http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=23)
twinmos pc3700 (http://store.yahoo.com/memx/xbd512.html)
corsair pc3700 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/xms/xms_modules.html)
kingston HyperX pc3700 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-144-129-01.JPG)
ocz pc3700 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-146-923-01.JPG)
Buffalo pc3700 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-150-537-03.JPG)
geil golden dragon pc3700
Re:I've got OCZ in my box, and would buy it again without qualm.
Re:I just bought the dfi board a few hours ago
I think it's a good enough board tho
now I just need memory and the cpu
which memory would you guys get from below for an nforce2 board:
geil golden dragon pc3700 (http://www.geilusa.com/proddetail.asp?linenumber=23)
twinmos pc3700 (http://store.yahoo.com/memx/xbd512.html)
corsair pc3700 (http://www.corsairmicro.com/xms/xms_modules.html)
kingston HyperX pc3700 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-144-129-01.JPG)
ocz pc3700 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-146-923-01.JPG)
Buffalo pc3700 (http://www.newegg.com/app/Showimage.asp?image=20-150-537-03.JPG)
Re:Originally posted by: guy
if overclocking is your main concern, you should go with an abit nf7-s rev.2 or epox 8rda+ for the mb.
i agree, nf7-s or 8rda+ is not only cheaper but a better OCer and generally a better board
Re:if overclocking is your main concern, you should go with an abit nf7-s rev.2 or epox 8rda+ for the mb.
Re:id just get an is7 / 2.4c / 3500 corsair xms and get 3.0ghz +
About the same price.
Re:yeah the only problem is very few sites test memory at 2-2-2 t1 timings on an nforce2 board above 200mhz
one other thing i noticed is that the dfi board only will let you go up to 1.8v
i heard geil memory and others need higher voltages to reach their full potential
what do you guys think ??
Re:Go to the Mushkin website and read about memory timings and take a look at some of the memory tests at various PC websites. Don't think you are going to need PC3700 speeds with this rig but quality ram is always a good buy. In very few "objective" reviews will any brand beat or evven match Mushkin. At least, that's my take on it.
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