How to do 1394 (Firewire) networking 'machine-to-machine' and Ethernet (the router) 'global'? [firewire networking] [firewire cards]

admin / January 5th, 2011/ Posted in Networking / No Comments »

Q: Here is the situation.
Two PCs, both running WinXP Pro. Both have 10/100 cards and .
1 DSL Modem/Router/Switch.

Both PCs connected to the router (w / static IP addresses – Router with static IP addresses via DHCP), if there is no connection between the two FW, internet works fine (on both). When I hook them w / Firewire I lose Internet connectivity (both). The machines talk to each other via Firewire when it is connected fine.
Windows seems to want to route all my traffic via the FireWire connection.
Bridging the compounds the problem solved, but there is another way to do this are. And type reduces security (not a big concern cos its a private LAN) 0.

These are the local addresses Id like to use:

Router:
192.168.1.1

Machine A:
IP: 192.168.1.100 / Gateway u0026 DNS : 192.168.1.1
Firewire: 192.168.1.200

Machine B:
IP: 192.168.1.101 / Gateway u0026 DNS: 192.168.1.1
Firewire: 192.168.1.201

How I can so that the two machines talk to each other via FireWire and talk to all (ie Internet, anything connected (like laptops) to the router) on the 10/100?

On a comment:
Im is a dual boot machine with Fedora B, and would like to do the same – but that is going through a separate beast itself.


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Re:Originally posted by: guy
By accessing the machines over the 2.x interfaces the routing table one each machine says that the firewire interface is closest to the other 2.x machine so all traffic destined for it goes over firewire. If you accessed it via the netbios name (ie \\computer1\c$) I don't think you know for sure which interface it will choose (probably the ethernet one but I'm not positive).

Gaidin

Thanks for the explanation, makes a lot of sense now.

If anyone's interested in the performance figures, here they are:

The first two are copying a few large files, 400MB – 2.5 GB.
The second two are copying a large number of small files. Typically arnd 10-30k.
The firewire address is 192.168.2.200, the eth is 1923168.1.100…
there's a significant improvement….

C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>"C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\ROBOCOPY" \\192.168.1.100\j$\cdimage megacp /MIR /NP

——————————————————————————

Total Copied Skipped Mismatch FAILED Extras
Dirs : 3 3 0 0 0 0
Files : 11 11 0 0 0 0
Bytes : 5.168 g 5.168 g 0 0 0 0
Times : 0:10:11 0:10:11 0:00:00 0:00:00

Speed : 9070272 Bytes/sec.
Speed : 519.005 MegaBytes/min.

Ended : Fri Oct 14 11:26:45 2005

C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>rd megacp /s /q
C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>"C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\ROBOCOPY" \\192.168.2.200\j$\cdimage megacp /MIR /NP
<omitted>

——————————————————————————

Total Copied Skipped Mismatch FAILED Extras
Dirs : 3 3 0 0 0 0
Files : 11 11 0 0 0 0
Bytes : 5.168 g 5.168 g 0 0 0 0
Times : 0:03:58 0:03:58 0:00:00 0:00:00

Speed : 23251067 Bytes/sec.
Speed : 1330.436 MegaBytes/min.

Ended : Fri Oct 14 11:31:41 2005

C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>rd megacp /s /q
C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>"C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\ROBOCOPY" \\192.168.1.100\c$\eclipse megacp /MIR /NP

<omitted>

——————————————————————————

Total Copied Skipped Mismatch FAILED Extras
Dirs : 463 463 0 0 0 0
Files : 2713 2713 0 0 0 0
Bytes : 135.95 m 135.95 m 0 0 0 0
Times : 0:00:48 0:00:39 0:00:00 0:00:09

Speed : 3632545 Bytes/sec.
Speed : 207.855 MegaBytes/min.

Ended : Fri Oct 14 11:45:54 2005

C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>rd megacp /s /q
C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>"C:\Program Files\Windows Resource Kits\Tools\ROBOCOPY" \\192.168.2.200\c$\eclipse megacp /MIR /NP

<omitted>
——————————————————————————

Total Copied Skipped Mismatch FAILED Extras
Dirs : 463 463 0 0 0 0
Files : 2713 2713 0 0 0 0
Bytes : 135.95 m 135.95 m 0 0 0 0
Times : 0:00:28 0:00:22 0:00:00 0:00:06

Speed : 6446104 Bytes/sec.
Speed : 368.849 MegaBytes/min.

Ended : Fri Oct 14 11:51:33 2005

C:\DOCUME~1\KZ\LOCALS~1\Temp>rd megacp /s /q


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Re:By accessing the machines over the 2.x interfaces the routing table one each machine says that the firewire interface is closest to the other 2.x machine so all traffic destined for it goes over firewire. If you accessed it via the netbios name (ie \\computer1\c$) I don't think you know for sure which interface it will choose (probably the ethernet one but I'm not positive).

Gaidin


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Re:wow…. that worked.
can you explain why?
Thanks!!!!

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Re:Originally posted by: guy
Try this:

Machine Re:
IP: 192.168.1.100 / Gateway & DNS: 192.168.1.1
Firewire: 192.168.2.200 No GW

Machine B:
IP: 192.168.1.101 / Gateway & DNS: 192.168.1.1
Firewire: 192.168.2.201 No GW

Access the machines with .2 (firewire) and internet should go over .1 (ethernet)

how do I specify internet to go over .1?


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Re:Try this:

Machine Re:
IP: 192.168.1.100 / Gateway & DNS: 192.168.1.1
Firewire: 192.168.2.200 No GW

Machine B:
IP: 192.168.1.101 / Gateway & DNS: 192.168.1.1
Firewire: 192.168.2.201 No GW

Access the machines with .2 (firewire) and internet should go over .1 (ethernet)


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