Not a good Celeron, AMD thinking! [default voltage] [pc 133]
Q: Bought a C-633 @ 790 runs on standard voltage, but will not start @ 950, and I do not have the guts to go higher than 1.95 volt.
Now I decided to spend even more money my computer!?
Well in an O / C terms, Duron 700-800 Mosel and PC-133 or T-bird 900 and keep my old PC 100.
And Abit mobo . or ASUS?
Anyone something to say, say it please! @ 633
Celeron 790
Abit BH6
128mb Apacer PC Live Player 100
Annihilator Pro
Soundblaster
Best Answer: The first answer is a good one but I'll give you a 2nd opinion.
First: A $499 computer will be stripped compared to an $899 one–usually. But that doesn't mean it won't do what you want. You just have to know what you want first.
As for brands, I usually care more for the warranty and store supporting it than brands, but if I had to choose I like my toshiba and would also look at HP, Sony, LG, Asus and Fujitsu. I've been looking at some of the new dell's which look good but some of the old ones were totally uhm, well, I won't use that language on the board here.
Things to look at:
1) Processor: Celeron's and Semprons are budget processors. Usually lacking in power for anything but everyday tasks. Start doing 'hefty' work and they will slow terribly.
Pentium 4 and Athlon XP are older but more powerful processors.
Intel Dual Core and Athlon X2 Dual core are faster still. However, they tend to run hot (making for a warm lap) and use a lot of electricity (poor battery life)
Intel Core 2 Duo are the best choice if you can find one at a good price. Most computing power and better battery life with less heat.
2) Operating System: Windows XP is most stable out there. Linux is free. Unfortunately virtually any new laptop will come with Vista. Vista basic is crippled. Premium is the better choice for most users. Business/Ultimate don't offer enough in my opinion to be worth the extra money
3) Memory. I wouldn't look at a computer lower than 1GB Ram and would opt for 2GB if possible. However, 1GB of ram can be added for about $50 so don't pay a premium to have it pre-installed
3) Hard Drive. That is where everything gets stored. Anything less than 80GB is substandard. 80GB is ok, but small. 120 or 160GB are the best choices. 200+ is great, but you tend to pay a premium for more space and you probably won't need it.
4) Video card. Most have integrated video and usually GMA 950. This video solution is incredibly awful for games. It will get you through web surfing but if you are doing graphics stay away. A dedicated video card is better but expensive. There are many choices but an Nvidia 7300 (or higher number) or ATI 1150 (or higher number) are the minimum I would look at. Personally I'd look for an Nvidia 8400 or 8600 myself which can be had on laptops in the $800+ range but more on that in another question.
5) Optical Drive. It should be DVD RW. If it is a Blu-ray or HD-DVD you are paying way too much money. If it is a CD burner you are getting an ancient laptop or they are seriously cutting corners.
6) Size. Usually they come from 12" to 17". The smaller laptops are lighter and easier to carry but tend to have less computing power. The 17" are easier to cram more power into but they are heavy and the big screen drains the battery. 14" and 15" are my personal favorites.
7) Battery. If you have a choice for a high capacity battery take it. Nothing worse than getting stuck with a dead battery.
Happy hunting 
If I was looking I would be seriously looking at the Dell Vostro 1520. You can get it with XP, a decent amount of Ram, decent hard drive, and a decent video card for about $599. I'd put it on my VISA card to double the warranty and save my cash off a more expensive laptop…..but that is just me.
Happy hunting.
Re:if you're the overclocking type you'll get a much better value with the duron if you have the guts to push it to it's limits but if you want run something at rated speeds, go with T-bird. Abit kt-7 has some really nice features
Re:the msi k7t pro2(6940) can be purchase for 99 dollars at mwave.com. this motherboard supports multiplier/fsb/and voltage adjustment within bios. very stable too, according to anandtech.
Re:the epox motherboard is good little cheap overclocker. But abit has all the bells and whistles for tweaking to get the max performance of your cpu
Re:KT7 all the way, the best Duron/Tbird overclocking board out there by far
Re:For Durons & Tbirds ,I'd go for Abit KT7 ,stable,fast & best overclocking features
Re:You just got a celeron that want overclock. I have two PC's one Intel and one AMD and I like them both.
guy 
Re:Thanks for all good advise.
But!?
Spend money on Duron and Mosel Pc-133
OR
T-bird?
And HSF, Alpha+YS combo OR Globalwin?
Re:Agreed with everyone. Just threw a Muskin REV2 PC133 RAM on my A7V and my memory benchmarks increased 35%! Duron is a much better performance vs price CPU than the Celery 2 is.
Re:the asus a7v is like $130 shipped now. nominal price for a GREAT mobo.
Spend money on good ram or at least have pc-133 CAS3, its lightspeed faster than pc-100 with durons!
spend some bucks on a good heatsink. the durons NEED it.
Re:You might want to consider the Epox EP-8KTA+ motherboard also. It's alot cheaper than the Asus and Abit motherboards and all the reviews I have read about it have been very positive.
http://www.ocworkbench.com/hardware/epox/8kta+/8kta+p1.htm
http://www.awaremag.com/hardware/epox/8kta_1.html
Re:AMD = Faster performance & More money in your wallet.
Re:It's not out yet.
Re:hey guy,
i read that review… i was wondering if you or anyone knows how much that MSI mobo is going for right now. I am too lazy to look for myself 
Re:Go AMD, I was an Intel fanatic for over 4 years and finally bought a Duron 600 a couple months ago. I'm up and running at 900MHz on my Abit KT7 Raid setting pretty.
Go for it!
Re:go for the AMD, since I own a boatload of AMD stock!
Re:Yes, I have something to say. Get an MSI K7T Pro 2!
Here is the review (http://www.{$MySite}/showdoc.html?i=1335)
AnandTech runs MSI in their servers.
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