Using two Access Point to my neighbors network access? [wireless router] [lan games]
Q: Hi,
I have tried this way of working for the last two hours.
Can I use two access points to get to each other to connect to my neighbors network.
I have a wireless router downstairs that I wanted to connect the access point over wireless and I would like to have access point to connect to my access point which is sitting upstairs.
That way we can transfer files back and forth and do the occasional LAN Games.
Im just wondering what I would have ot buy or if it is possible.
Thanks
Phil
Best Answer: A router kinda is an access point.
The only way I have seen this done is with same brand devices with security setup on both.
http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite…
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Re:ppoint to point bridging works like a charm. got it setup last night about midnight.
Thanks
Guys
Phil
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Re:Actually no. He wants both as straight bridges. He already has the ap in his AP/Router Combo. Having one in ap mode and one in client would still work but it pointless.
Krueger, put both in Bridge only mode, or whatever the equivalent is on the Linksys device. Start by getting an association with the two bridges right next to each other. Establish a link. Make sure both have the same SSID. They should if they are both WAP11, but I'd change the default SSID anyway. Make it something unique. Make sure they are on the same channel (frequency base. 1, 6, or 11). Not sure what the terminology is in the SOHO world but in bridging, one would be the parent bridge, or root on. The other, root off, would be the child bridge. I imagine the manual would address that. Once you have established a link with the two in the same room you can move the remote bridge to it's permanent location. If you cannot establish a link, then you have a problem and will likely need higher gain, directional antennas. If you don't have direct view, unobstructed line of sight then you may be SOL. Very low powered devices here and 2.4 craves line of sight over anything other than very short distances. Don't do AP/Client mode. You want Point to Point bridging.
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Re:guy, what you need is to effectively make one AP into an AP and the other AP into a client. Both are really bridges, but from an 802.11 perspective, you want one to be the BSS AP and the other to look like a BSS client. Making an AP act like an AP is easy and pretty universally supported. Making an AP act like a client and actually do Ethernet bridging is not supported by all devices, and not supported well by those that do support it. The WAP11 should support it, but may need modern/latest firmware. An alternative if you can return an AP or buy something new is to get one of those widgets designed to be an adapter from a wired Ethernet station into an 802.11b station – but check if those can do more than one MAC address.
Do a quick Google search on the topic to learn more.
Prototype this first with the access points in the same room. Signal issues are a whole different ball game and you don't want to be trying to debug TWO difficult problems – separate them! Get the AP to AP bridging working first, then get the wireless signal in the locations you want the AP to live working.
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Re:Distance and obstructions may be the problem.
Connect one WAP11 via straight CAT5 cable to your Wireless Router (regular port).
Put the second WAP11 in the same room (to insure that distance and noise is not a problem in the initial setup.) Connect the second WAP to an independent commuter (WAP to independent computer crossover CAT5).
Configure the whole thing to work as a Bridge mode (instructions in the manual). Once it is working in the same room move the second WAP to the Hub across the street, if it does not work across the street you will need to start the external Antenna phase. I.e. install good antennae on the WAPs to get connected.
P.S. The manufactures of Entry Level Wireless Hardware seem to think that their main mission is to confuse the Users. They tend to choose written description that are not conforming to the usual use in the industry. E.g. Linksys relates to the WET11 as a Bridge, while actually it is a Driverless Wireless Client. Could be that the mode you are looking for is called in the manual differently. If you understand the actual nature of the Configuration Mode you are looking for it will make life easy.
On Wireless Configuration Mode here:
Wireless Network – Configuration Modes. (http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Modes.html)
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Re:well I bought two access points. I am unable to connect the two guys together.
I have no clue what the hell I am supposed to use. What mode.. I have tried Wireless Bridge mode. and I am still unable to see the network on the other side of the street.
Are there any settings I am supposed to look for. They are Linksys WAP11.
Thanks
Phil
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Re:That'll work.
Bridge mode.
Just make sure you set the bridges on a non-overlapping channel from the Router/AP combo. Non-overlapping channels. 1, 6, and 11.
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Re:Well this is my current setup
Cable Modem -> Wireless Router -> Wireless PCMCIA Card Laptop
What I wanna do is do it like this.
cable Modem ->Wireless Router -> Wireless Access Point -> Wireless Access Point -> Hub -> Two PCS
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I still wanna be able to access the network on my part of the House from the upstairs to the downstairs so I am able to access files upstairs
the Window will be between the two access points. What modes would the access points to be in?
Thanks
Phil
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Re:You could try to get it to work if your equipment supports repeater mode, e.g. the D-Link DWL-900AP+ (http://www.dlink.com/products/digitalHome/wireless/11b+/dwl900ap+/). You put the repeater where it is in range of both your wireless router and his access point.
In general, there are ways to pull it off if you buy extra APs or buy the right kind of equipment in the first place, but it may cost you some extra money. And, of course, there is the question of range — can the APs reach each other?
If money is no object, the ideal thing may be to get two APs both configured in point to point bridge mode, in addition to whatever other wireless equipment you may have. The APs would be connected to a switch on each side and their sole function would be to bridge your network with his, and not serve other wireless clients. As Ktwebb notes, you'll have to do some fiddling around with your other settings — in effect, you guys would have one big network instead of 2 separate ones. People also sometimes do this sort of thing when they want to (illegally) share an internet connection.
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Re:Nope. To do a multipoint bridging you'd need AP's that will act in bridge mode (Not client or Workgroup bridge mode). The middle bridge would be the parent. AP/Routers are AP only. Bridging would also not accept any wireless clients so you'd be SOL on any laptops or desktops with a wireless card. What you will need to do is get a dedicated AP for both sides, then run a cat 5 cable from each AP to a port on the routers switch on each side.
Edit: Just re-read your post. As long as his device is an AP and not AP/Router combo then all you need to do is run the cat 5 from your second ap to your ap/router. And turn on bridging on your respective AP's. Again though, this will cut out wireless clients so if your friend has a laptop or whatever that uses the AP on his side, it will no longer associate to the AP. He could leave his ap as an ap and you run yours as a client. Then run the cat 5 to a port on the switch. You'd might have to adjust all your IP settings on one side though, and turn off DHCP, at least on one side.
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