Windows XP and the file permisssion [fileshare] [windows xp]
Q: How exactly would the file permissions work in the following situation .
three computers, A, B and C. Let auser, BUser. CUser and all of their respective computers.
A the fileserver, BUser CUser and connect to a fileshare on A using the login/pass.
Now auser, some of the files on the A-not available to everyone now. I have no idea why. I still try as admin since apparently, I forgot it somehow. Has not successfully reset .
but it happened in the past before too. what is the error in my setup file permission error that all these causes, and what are ways to prevent this? I am building a new fileserver and want to use linux, but do not want to learn but for a file server for myself. It is much easier for me to setup a dummy windows box hacked for RAID 5.
Im play w / ubuntu now as an alternative, but I suspect that I will stand and drop back to windows, so Id figure Id try to see what I do wrong.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
1) inaccessible
2) cannot access as local userA (cannot try administrator either)
3) all windows xp
4) no domain
5) computer a does not have account for userB/C. userB/C uses account userA to login the shared folder
i realize if i did have everything as a domain, it'd probably work out better.. but i didn't really want to set that up. but just to add, I'm not interested in saving these files so much, it happens that i don't care about the ones I can't get to. however, for future reference… it'd be nice to know.
Item #2 there is your key.
This takes share permissions out of the picture, and any network connectivity. UserA simply does not have the proper NTFS permissions.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
that is what must be happening then. I was not sure if the ownership problem was because of my own mistakes or not. this will be interesting in how i get my xbox to read the share drives… not sure if I can give it a username/login to use or not. we'll see.Microsoft has published a way to NOT use passwords for network file sharing. Search MS's Support site for the procedure.
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Re:Originally posted by: guy
"Ownership" sometimes becomes a factor. When files or drives are moved from one XP computer to another, NTFS doesn't know who the files belong to anymore. Furthermore, NTFS doesn't know who should have access rights to the files.
In order to set the new access rights, a Local Administrator must "take ownership" of the files. Once ownership is established, the Administrator can set the Sharing and Security permissions and re-establish sharing of the files.
that is what must be happening then. I was not sure if the ownership problem was because of my own mistakes or not. this will be interesting in how i get my xbox to read the share drives… not sure if I can give it a username/login to use or not. we'll see.
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Re:There are several Internet sites that discuss file sharing in XP.
For a quick wrap-up:
ASSUMING that "simple file sharing" is turned off on your XP file server…..
There are two things that NTFS cares about:
1) "Sharing"
2) "Security"
SHARING determines whether folders can be seen across the network. No sharing….no networking of files. For simplicity, set any folder that you want to share to "EVERYONE", Full Control.
SECURITY is now used to set the detailed access rights of users and groups. Except for Local Administrators, to access a file or folder, an account must have explicit rights to do so. Anybody trying to access a file or folder must have an account on the XP computer that is hosting the files.
Also, by default, XP requires that ALL ACCOUNTS HAVE PASSWORDS. If they don't, they won't be able to access shared folders and files.
"Ownership" sometimes becomes a factor. When files or drives are moved from one XP computer to another, NTFS doesn't know who the files belong to anymore. Furthermore, NTFS doesn't know who should have access rights to the files.
In order to set the new access rights, a Local Administrator must "take ownership" of the files. Once ownership is established, the Administrator can set the Sharing and Security permissions and re-establish sharing of the files.
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Re:bump for any more opinions… i got so fustrated w/ ubuntu last night.. heh.
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Re:1) inaccessible
2) cannot access as local userA (cannot try administrator either)
3) all windows xp
4) no domain
5) computer a does not have account for userB/C. userB/C uses account userA to login the shared folder
i realize if i did have everything as a domain, it'd probably work out better.. but i didn't really want to set that up. but just to add, I'm not interested in saving these files so much, it happens that i don't care about the ones I can't get to. however, for future reference… it'd be nice to know.
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Re:Couple things:
1. Is the file inaccessible or not visible?
2. How about when logged on locally as userA?
3. What operating systems are on ABC?
4. Is there a domain anywhere in the picture or are userA, userB, userC just local accounts on the respective machines?
5. If in a workgroup and not domain: Did you create userB, userC on Computer A?
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